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Old Jun 24th 2009, 03:59 PM
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Default Transformers Revenge of the Fallen

Sucks ass. My distaste with the first one is documented, this however is a far shittier film. They stuff in more robots, quite a few of which especially the twins and the geezer decepticon are blatantly annoying characters who are even worst attempts at comic relief then Jar Jar Binks was. The movie is far too long, and contains way too much filler to justify it's length.

For the ass clowns saying, well this movie isn't about plot. Michael Bay had the film's two writers in a motel room for a month cranking out this piece of shit script. You do not get to make a two and a half hour film and claim that you didn't try to insert plot. This movie still feels the need to focus on badly written and one dimensional comic relief characters, this time tossing in even more than the first film had. There's a sequence involving a heaven of sort for previous primes that is really just that bad. The Fallen? Is a nice idea in conception, but on screen really underwhelming and quite sad. The action scenes aren't even much of a saving grace, as they still don't know how to shoot them properly. They are superior to the ones in the first film, but still a far cry from what a competent director could do with this budget. The little comic bits wear thin quite early on in the film, and they continue to drag on. That's something that really brought down the film for me. Like I hate having to sit through that shit, comic relief can work well in a film like Iron Man. Where the characters are developed somewhat and you give a damn about them. Here? Every character is a retarded archetype and I couldn't give two shits if they lived or died.

Sole saving graces for the film?
The robots look even better than they did in the first film, and there's more of them. Though some pretty shitty ones so that's not saying much.
They got Tony Todd to voice the shitty Fallen character.
More banter and screen time for Starscream and Megatron is a plus.
Megan Fox is cute, though she has no body and Michael Bay has a disturbing obsession with making her look completely smutty in here. Shitty actress though, completely uninteresting when she opens her mouth.
Battle scenes weren't complete shit, although they were not good enough to defend this piece of shit movie.

2/10. I am not even weighing the lack of plot heavily, I barely mentioned it. What you get is horrid, but the comic relief and stupid characters along with the incompetent directing and horrendous pacing just completely drag this movie all to hell. My advice? See if Public Enemies is going to be worth a damn soon.
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Old Jun 24th 2009, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: Transformers Revenge of the Fallen

it gots a 21% approval rating on rottentomatoes... reading some of the reviews were hilarious, they shitted on it pretty bad. haha

i also read in a couple of reviews that it was pretty blatantly racist with 2 of the characters... they're suppose to be "obviously black"...

saying that... i'm still gonna watch it. but, i don't have any doubts that it won't be a good film.

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Revenge of the Fallen is almost literally plotless. It's like a movie based on a TV Guide description. A bloated, ponderous piece of s**t.

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No giant robots urinate on humans in Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

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Putrid, offensive and life-sucking. Early word is describing this woebegone fiasco as the next Batman and Robin. Having seen both, Joel Schumacher has every right to protest the comparison.

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Bay's most unrestrained and ridiculous to date. The male teenage cinematic equivalent of snorting cocaine off a hooker's ass.
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haha. i had thought that it was gonna be wack. first one was good, no doubt bout that.
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A joyless, humorless, bloated carcass of an event movie...Nothing kills the euphoric buzz of exceptionally articulated carefree mindlessness quite like a newly emboldened Michael Bay.

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For far too long, the movie consists of chase scenes, scrotum jokes, shrieked conversations, broad slapstick, and depressingly regressive ethnic caricatures.
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Old Jun 24th 2009, 04:25 PM
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it gots a 21% approval rating on rottentomatoes... reading some of the reviews were hilarious, they shitted on it pretty bad. haha

i also read in a couple of reviews that it was pretty blatantly racist with 2 of the characters... they're suppose to be "obviously black"...

saying that... i'm still gonna watch it. but, i don't have any doubts that it won't be a good film.

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Revenge of the Fallen is almost literally plotless. It's like a movie based on a TV Guide description. A bloated, ponderous piece of s**t.

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No giant robots urinate on humans in Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

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Putrid, offensive and life-sucking. Early word is describing this woebegone fiasco as the next Batman and Robin. Having seen both, Joel Schumacher has every right to protest the comparison.

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Bay's most unrestrained and ridiculous to date. The male teenage cinematic equivalent of snorting cocaine off a hooker's ass.
The characters you mention are indeed racist. One has a gold tooth, they use "street" slang also and shit.

Here is Bay's statement.

Director Bay has defended the robots as "good clean fun" and insisted that "We're just putting more personality in" the film.

To this I say, Fuck you Michael Bay. fuck you and anyone who allows you to make movies.
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Old Jun 24th 2009, 04:32 PM
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The characters you mention are indeed racist. One has a gold tooth, they use "street" slang also and shit.

Here is Bay's statement.

Director Bay has defended the robots as "good clean fun" and insisted that "We're just putting more personality in" the film.

To this I say, Fuck you Michael Bay. fuck you and anyone who allows you to make movies.
haha, i totally forgot about the gold tooth, but i remember reading that. i'm pretty sure this is the last one bay is directing... if they make anymore that is.

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haha, at them not being able to read.

TRANSFORMERS' LITTLE BLACK SAMBOTS?

I am not a PC person. Those who know me in real life will attest that if an off-color, offensive or wildly juvenile joke needs to be made it'll likely be me making it. I think people are too sensitive in the modern world, and I don't think any topic is off-limits when it comes to laughs.

That said, even I was stupefied by what I saw in Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen's Twins. These new robots, who begin the film conjoined as a shitty old ice cream truck but who soon get upgraded into Chevy concept cars, seem to be the most extreme racial caricatures seen in a movie in decades. The Twins have a simian appearance, with wide faces and huge ears. One of them (full disclosure: I am not sure which is which, namewise. This isn't a problem limited to just these robots in Transformers 2 as I couldn't tell most robots apart, except for Optimus Prime and Bumblebee) has a gold bucktooth. They have a 'playful' back and forth relationship, which includes them talking in some sort of modern day rap-age jive, calling each other 'bitch-ass' or 'punk,' talking with an exaggerated, crunked-up 'street' accent. They appear to be stoned all the time. And they can't read; when asked to translate some ancient Cybertronian language they sheepishly admit they 'don't do much readin'.' To be fair, only Primes can read this language, but even the completely idiotic mini-bot (and Italian stereotype) Wheelie can at least recognize what the writing is. The Twins are completely illiterate, it seems. I was actually surprised that the film didn't find a way to make them wear a Transformers version of baggy pants.

To be completely shocked by this is admittedly kind of foolish. Quite a bit was made of Jazz, the black Autobot in the first film, who did a breakdance move and got killed. But The Twins make Jazz look like a paragon of taste, and they make Jar Jar Binks look like he belongs in a production of A Raisin in the Sun. Simply put they are offensive beyond measure, and if their names were Stepin and Fetchit I could maybe argue that they were a joke or a bit of meta-commentary or anything except horrible, horrible racial stereotypes.

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Bay went on to say that his vision of the Twins is that he wanted bots with whom the younger audience could really identify, and the funny thing is that I actually believe him. I don't think he set out to make two grotesque caricatures; I think he honestly believes these characters reflect some aspect of youth culture and not just a cartoony, broad vision of black youth. Bay's films have never been all that racially sensitive (and blacks aren't the only group to take a hit in this film; as mentioned above, Wheelie is a flat-out dago, even going so far as to refer to ancient Transformer Jetfire as 'da Chairman of da Board,' and there's some choice Arabic humor in the film as well), but the Twins surely represent an all-time low.

Would they have been as offensive if Bay had gotten a black actor for the voices? There certainly would be less of a feeling of weirdness if Katt Williams had come in for some shucking and jiving, although it would still have been... off. Bay's defense seems to be that Tom Kenny came in and just Sambo'd it up, as if he had no way of knowing what sort of racially insensitive schtick the actor would bring. That's hugely unlikely; Bay isn't prisoner to the whims of his actors, especially not a voice actor.

What the whole Twins debacle really reveals, though, is the sheer lack of adult supervision on this film. Transformers 2 is hugely bloated, incoherent, stupid and boring, seemingly all because Bay was free to indulge in his most Bayish impulses. The first film is rescued by the restraining hand of Spielberg; that hand is noticeably gone here. It's stunning to think that anyone in the 21st century looked at the character designs of the Twins or listened to the voice tracks and thought that this was 'okay.'

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Anyone who likes this film is a mouth breather, plain and simple. I am waiting for someone on here to say they enjoyed this shit.
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The characters you mention are indeed racist. One has a gold tooth, they use "street" slang also and shit.

Here is Bay's statement.

Director Bay has defended the robots as "good clean fun" and insisted that "We're just putting more personality in" the film.

To this I say, Fuck you Michael Bay. fuck you and anyone who allows you to make movies.
Are you serious? They consider that shit "good clean fun"?

That's some bull right there..
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Are you serious? They consider that shit "good clean fun"?

That's some bull right there..
Michael Bay is legally retarded. He's like a child in a grown man's body. It really doesn't surprise me.
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Damn, Shia didn't even get a mention. Normally the dude steals the show. I thought this movie was going to be awesome, and everyone said they were leaving early, and the ones who didn't said they wished they had .
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